THE OLD ROMAN 17/xi/19

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ORDO w/c Sunday 17th November 2019 Vol I Issue xii

S17.11St Gregory Thaumaturgus
Com. XXIII Post Pentecost
(W) Missa “Statuit” 
or… in the UK
St Hugh of Lincoln B&C
Com. XXIII Post Pentecost
& St Hilda of Whitby

(W) Missa “Sacerdotes”

Gl. Cr. Pref.Trinity 

2a) XXIII PP 3a)StHilda
Gl. Cr. Pref.Trinity 
M18.11Dedication of the Basilicas
of SS Peter & Paul in Rome
(W) Missa “Terribilis” 
g.dGl. Cr. Pref.Common
T19.11St Elizabeth of Hungary W
Com. St Pontianus of Rome
(W) Missa “Cognovi”
d.2a) St Pontianus B&M
Gl. Pref.Common
W20.11St Felix of Valois C
(W) Missa “Justus” 
Or… in the UK
St Edmund of East Anglia 
(R) Missa “In virtute tua”

2a) St Edmund K&M
Gl. Pref.Common

2a) St Felix of Valois C
Gl. Cr. Pref.Common
T21.10Presentation of the
Blessed Virgin Mary*
(W) Missa “Salve” 
g.dGl. Cr. Pref.Common
F22.11St Cecilia of Rome V&M
(R) Missa “Loquebar”
d.Gl. Pref.Common
S23.11St Clement I of Rome B&M
Com. St Felicitas of Rome 
(R) Missa “Dicit Dominus”
d.2a) St Felicitas V&M
Gl. Pref.Common
S24.11St John of the Cross C&D
Com. XXIV & Last Sunday PP
& St Chrysogonus in Aquileia
(W) Missa “In medio” 
d.2a) XXIVPP 3a) StChrys’
Gl. Cr. Pref.Trinity PLG

KEY: A=Abbot A cunctis=of the Saints B=Bishop BD=Benedicamus Domino BVM=Blessed Virgin Mary C=Confessor Com=Commemoration Cr=Creed D=Doctor d=double d.i/ii=double of the 1st/2nd Class E=Evangelist F=Feria Gl=Gloria gr.d=greater-double (G)=Green H=Holy K=King M=Martyr mpal=missae pro aliquibus locis Mm=Martyrs Pent=Pentecost P=Priest PP/PostPent=Post Pentecost PLG=Proper Last Gospel Pref=Preface ProEccl=for the Church (R)=Red s=simple s-d=semi-double Co=Companions V1=1st Vespers V=Virgin v=votive (V)=violet W=Widow (W)=white *Ob.=Obligation 2a=second oration 3a=third oration

* * the feast of St Gregory Thaumaturgus is kept in the UK on Nov 27


… to this twelfth edition of “The Old Roman” a weekly dissemination of news, views and information for and from around the world reflecting the experience and life of 21C “Old Romans” i.e. western Orthodox Catholics across the globe.
CONTRIBUTIONS… news items, magazine, devotional or theological articles, prayer requests, features about apostolates and parish mission life are ALL welcome and may be submitted via email. Submissions should be sent by Friday for publication the following Sunday.

Traditional Customs this week…

The Bible tells us that, “it is therefore a holy and wholesome thought to pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins,” (2 Maccabees 12:46) and especially in the month of November, the Church urges us to spend time in prayer for those who have gone before us. Prayer for the souls in Purgatory is a requirement of Christian charity, and it helps us to call to mind our own mortality.
It is customary for the faithful during the period of eight days from All Saints Day to visit a cemetery and pray for the dead on each day of the Octave. Here is a simple invocation for the dead, called the “Eternal Rest” prayer:
Eternal rest grant unto him/her (them), O Lord; and let perpetual light shine upon him/her (them). May he/she (they) rest in peace. Amen.
Latin version:
Réquiem ætérnam dona ei (eis) Dómine; et lux perpétua lúceat ei (eis). Requiéscat (Requiéscant) in pace. Amen.
Old Romans also pray this prayer for the dead anytime throughout the year, and whenever they pass a cemetery. Many families pray a Rosary nightly for the dead throughout the Octave of All Saints, concluding with this prayer.

The Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary, known in the East as The Entry of the Most Holy Theotokos into the Temple. The feast is associated with an event recounted not in the New Testament, but in the apocryphal Protoevangelium of James. According to that text, Mary’s parents, Joachim and Anne, who had been childless, received a heavenly message that they would have a child. In thanksgiving for the gift of their daughter, they brought her, when still a child, to the Temple in Jerusalem to consecrate her to God. Later versions of the story (such as the Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew and the Gospel of the Nativity of Mary) tell us that Mary was taken to the Temple at around the age of three in fulfilment of a vow. Tradition held that she was to remain there to be educated in preparation for her role as Mother of God.

The Old Roman VIEW…

Regrettable recent events in Santiago, Chile have sunk to new depths of civil unrest. November 9th, feast of the Dedication of the Archbasilica of Our Saviour (the Lateran) a hooded group of Antifa leftwing extremists desecrated La Asuncion church in Santiago, Chile (photo above). They carried pews and paintings out of the church to burn, and beheaded statues. In the preceding week the walls of Vera Cruz church were besmeared with heinous slogans like: “We will burn you down”, “Free abortion” and “God doesn’t exist.” The altar and pillars of the La Asuncion church were daubed with satanic symbols as well as socialist slogans and anti-religious insults.

The Old Roman Archdiocese of Santiago in Chile has not been immune to the current political crises in the country’s capital. Archbishop Cristian Andrés has kept the Primus and holy Synod informed of events and all the clergy globally have been holding the Archdiocese and faithful in their prayers and offering Masses. We invite all readers of The Old Roman likewise to pray for the people of Chile and an end to the sacrilege and violence.

Meteropolitan Jerome of Selsey at the cenotaph, Brighton & Hove
Remembrance Sunday 2019

Contrary to popular belief, Old Roman Catholicism is not what some self-referential authors claim, to be a part of so-called “Independent Catholicism” or the “Independent Sacramental Movement” or “ISM”. While the histories of many ecclesial groups within that “movement” may indeed claim some antecedence lineally from the Old Roman Apostolic Succession, it is only that bishops who ceded from the Church acted schismatically, having deserted the communion of their Episcopal College.

An essential difference between Old Roman Catholicism and the “ISM” is exactly the notion of “independence”. We Old Romans are not “independent” of anything, least of all the universal Church! Our whole raison d’être and hence our name as Old Romans is to perpetuate the authentic and primitive continuance of the Latin Rite and the Catholic Faith in it’s perennial Tradition in western expression for the sake of Rome. This is why Archbishop Mathew (memory eternal) sought after the apostasy of Utrecht to unite Old Romans with an Apostolic See i.e. Antioch, of which St Peter was bishop before he went to Rome!

By contrast, so-called “Independent Catholic” groups, are usually and purposefully founded on points of divergence and controversy from the doctrine and praxis of the universal Church. Unity with the universal Church is not for them a priority nor even a goal, they deliberately exist to be at odds with the rest of the Church and are invariably themselves, odd. A common characteristic of their clergy is a self-willed sense of vocation i.e. they often seek or obtain ordination circumventing any true discernment or testing of suitability for ministry. Not for nought are such referred to by the epithet, “clerici vagantes”.

This medieval Latin term meaning “wandering clergy” applied in early canon law to those clergy who led an itinerant life either because they had no benefice or because they had deserted the church to which they had been attached. It was a principle established in the Great Councils of the first millennium that every cleric should be assigned a definite office or ministry with episcopal oversight. Likewise every bishop was in turn responsible to other bishops in his locality, these eventually developing into groups as provinces etc and regionally, ultimately under a Patriarch.

As Archbishop Carfora (memory eternal) wrote of the Old Roman Church: “This Church is called OLD because it rejects Modernism and every recent innovation of doctrine while adhering faithfully to the doctrine and discipline of the Church of Apostolic times. She is called ROMAN because the line of her Apostolic succession from the first century until 1739 was held in common with the Roman Catholic Church and also because she uses the Roman Rite without addition or change, employing the Pontificale, Missale and Rituale Romanum with great care and exactitude as to matter, form and intention in the administration of the seven Sacraments. The Church is CATHOLIC because she is not confined to any one nation or place or time, but ministers to all men, in all places, for all time, teaching the same Faith once delivered by her Founder, Jesus Christ, to the Apostles.”

It is important for us Old Romans to remember and to explain to others that, far from being “independent” we are wholly Catholic. We were estranged from and have kept our distance from contemporary Rome, not for anything our forefathers did, but because of what was done, and still is done, in Rome’s name. We united with the Catholic east, because like them we are “orthodox” in the Faith and it’s praxis, recognising and holding fast to sacred Tradition. We are keen and striving to ensure, despite our limited capabilities, that the men we ordain are indeed called by God and seek to genuinely serve Him, and not themselves.

An Old Roman – Jean Gerson

“An Old Roman” is a weekly look at significant Old Romans in Church history…

Jean Gerson (1363 – 1429, also Jean de Gerson, or, originally, Jean Charlier) came from a family of modest means in the Champagne region of France. He was born in 1363 at the village of Gerson, in the bishopric of Reims in Champagne. His parents, were pious peasants, and seven of their twelve children devoted themselves to lives as consecrated religious.

At age fourteen, Gerson was sent for studies at the College of Navarre at the University of Paris. He entered tutelage under the celebrated Pierre d’Ailly as well as Gilles des Champs. D’Ailly, who soon became Chancellor of the University of Paris, remained a lifelong friend to Gerson and, in later life, the pupil seems to have become the master. Gerson very soon attracted the notice of the university. In 1383, he was elected procurator for the French-born Francophone students at the university. In 1392, Gerson was awarded a licentiate degree. He received his doctorate of theology two years later. Gerson first gained fame as a popular preacher in Paris.

The University of Paris was at the height of its fame during the final decades of the fourteenth century. When d’Ailly was appointed Bishop of Puy in 1395, Gerson was elected as his replacement in the office of chancellor. In this position, Gerson was sworn to maintain the rights of his university against both king and pope, and entrusted with the conduct and studies of a vast crowd of students attracted from almost every country in Europe. Gerson’s theological writings bear witness to his deep sense of the responsibilities, anxieties, and troubles of his position.

Gerson gained international renown as a result of his leading rôle as a theologian to the Council of Constance (1414–1418), where his conciliarist ecclesiological contributions helped end the Western Schism (1378–1415). Following the Council, he traveled in the Holy Roman Empire and then to Lyon, where his brother was a Celestine monk. Although still university chancellor, he never returned to Paris, which had fallen under the control of his political enemies, the Anglo-Burgundians.

Gerson died at Lyon on July 12, 1429. A popular fallacy of the fifteenth century claimed that during his time at Lyon, Gerson translated or adapted from the Latin a work upon eternal consolation, which afterwards became very famous under the title of The Imitation of Christ. It has, however, been proven subsequently that this work really was written by Thomas á Kempis, and not by Gerson.

During his lifetime, Gerson composed hundreds of works in Latin and French and in a variety of genres. These survive in thousands of manuscripts, especially in German-speaking lands, and attest to his tremendous popularity as a moral and spiritual authority in fifteenth-century Europe. Gerson’s wide-ranging interests extended well beyond the traditional limits of university masters, and his writings serve as a window into late medieval life and thought. His omnia opera were first printed in 1483 and were frequently reprinted through the first quarter of the sixteenth century. Later humanists and university theologians alike claimed him as one of their intellectual fathers. Gerson’s conciliarist contributions to ecclesiology and canon law helped establish the theological foundations out of which the Old Roman Catholic Church emerged. Its emphasis on the centrality of the episcopacy in Church life, the supremacy of general councils, and the need for the spiritual and temporal powers to operate harmoniously for the good of Christendom remain essential truths of Old Roman Catholicism.

Jean Gerson 1363 – 1429

Ask a bishop…

A new weekly broadcast invites viewers on Facebook to Ask a bishop a question on any subject connected with the Faith and Christian life, in real time. The “live and interactive” show is hosted by Metropolitan Jerome of Selsey and is broadcast via The Brighton Oratory’s Facebook page every Wednesday from 7pm GMT.


Don’t forget that Mass is broadcast live everyday and the recording available to view on YouTube via the playlist below. The Mass Propers are posted online here. IF you would like a Mass offered for your intention please use the Prayer Request form below stating in the message that it is a Mass intention.


One of the greatest impediments to evangelism in the 21C is not the ignorance of non-believers, but of believers! Catechism Classes are currently ongoing around the Communion for all levels of students, those exploring or converting to the faith, those being brought up in the faith and those preparing to be Baptised/Confirmed in the faith.

BACOOR (Philippines) the Mission Parish of Jesus the Divine Mercy offers a catechetical Mass for children on Sunday’s from 10am.

BRIGHTON (UK) the Brighton Oratory holds Catechism Conferences on Saturday mornings for those wishing to deepen and better understand their faith, from 10am following coffee and fellowship after the 0830 Mass.

CHICAGO (USA) the Mission Parish of St Anne‘s is holding classes for explorers and converts contact Fr Thomas Gierke OSF for more information [contact details below].

Of your charity…

For health & well-being…

Christopher, Lyn B, Simon G, Dagmar B, Karen, Debbie G, Fr Graham F, Fr Stephen D, Heather & Susanna L-D, Finley G, Diane C, Pat, Paul, +Rommel B, Penny E, Colin R, John, Ronald, Fr Gerard H, Lilian & family, Ruth L, David G, David P, Patrick H, Debbie G, Karen K, Fr Graham F, S&A, Dave G, +Charles of Wisconsin, +Tissier, Fr Terrence M, +Guo Xijin, +John P, Karl R-W, Fr Antonio Benedetto OSB, Fr Kristopher M & family, Mark Coggan, Ounissa, Ronald Buczek, Rik C, Adrian & Joan Kelly, Juanita Alaniz & family, Shirley V, Luke

For those vocationally discerning…

James, Breandán, Manuel, Vincent, Darren, Akos, Roger, James, Adrian, Carlos, Thomas, Yordanis, Nicholas, Tyler, Micha, Michael, Gaëtan

For the recently departed…

Lauretta (21.01.19), Clive Reed (23.01.19), Fr John Wright (24.01.19), Shelley Luben (11.12.18), Mick Howells (13.12.18), Daniel Callaghan (13.02.19), Alfie (Hub guest), Père Pierre Fournier (08.02.19), Jill Lewis (24.02.19), Cynthia Sharpe Conger (28.02.19), Richard (Ricky) Belmonte, Fr Leo Cameron OSA (29.03.19), Fr John Corbett (30.03.19), Deacon Richard Mulholland (Easter Day), Peter, Bernard Brown (27.06.19), Peter Ellis (01.08.19), Petronila Antonio (10.09.19), Fr Mark Spring (13.09.19), Jean Marchant (15.09.19), Mary Kelly (15.10.19), John Pender (23.10.19)

For those who mourn…

Barbara R & family, Brenda W & family, Joseph S, Catherine L & family, Rev George C & family, Jean C, Margaret & Bonita C, Debbie M & family, Phil E & Family, Adrian Kelly & family, Fr Nicholas Pnematicatos & family

Prayer Request Form

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Mass Centre Directory

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PHILIPPINESBacoor Parish of Jesus the Divine Mercy, Copper St. Platinum Ville, San Nicolas III, Bacoor, Province of Cavite

1000Mass & Children’s Catechesis
1st Wed’s1900Mass & O.L. of Perpetual Succour Devotions
1st Frids’1900Mass & Sacred Heart Devotions

PHILIPPINES, Lagunas Parish of San Isidro Labrador, Dita, Sta. Rosa

1st Wed’s1900Mass & O.L. Perpetual Succour Devotions
1st Fri’s1900Mass & Sacred Heart Devotions


UK, Brighton The Brighton Oratory of SS Cuthman & Wilfrid, 1-6 Park Crescent Terrace, Brighton BN2 3HD Telephone +44 7423 074517

Sundays0830Mass & homily
& Daily1000Breaking fast
Wed’s1730Holy Hour & Benediction
Sat’s0830Mass & homily
1000Catechism Conference

UK, Bristol The Little Oratory of Our Lady of Walsingham with Saint Francis, 11 The Primroses, Hartcliffe, Bristol, BS13 0BG

Sundays1030Sermon & Holy Communion


USA, Chicago IL Parish Mission of St Anne, Church of the Atonement, 5749 North Kenmore Avenue, Chicago, IL 60660 Telephone: (773) 817 – 5818

Sundays1800Mass & homily (2nd of the month)
Wed’s1930Catechism & Reception Class

USA, Chicago IL Missionary Franciscans of Christ the King, The Friary


USA, Glendale AZ St. Joseph’s Glendale AZ. Contact address: 7800 N 55th Ave Unit 102162 Glendale AZ 85301 Telephone +1 310 995 3126


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